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August 07, 2007

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diane

perhaps the debate could go like this -- the politicians could ask the questions and women could respond to them. How long have womens voices gone unheard in the "land of the free"?

riane eisler

Brava!!
So right -- and so well put.
We have to change the terms of the debate.

Melissa

Chills. I have chills after reading this.

I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to copy and paste this up on my blog site. I want what few loyal readers I have to read this too.

You are brilliant and amazing and I know I've said it before but it is worth repeating...I am a better woman because I know you.

xoxo

kara

over from melissa's place...

i've been thinking the same thing myself!!! fantastic post. and spot. on.

i've linked you in my post as well today - i hope that's ok?

charlesclarknovels

I subscribed to Google Alerts for Women's Rights Issues because the life of the lead character in my novel "Return to Dos Encinos", Sarah Levin Cisneros, closely parallels that of one of my grandmothers. In my research for the novel, I was amazed when I read stories of the hazards and obstacles that those courageous women battled during suffragist era of the late 1800s. Today, when I read stories of the present campaigns by women to enhance the lot of women today - advancement opportunities in the work place, pay equity, marriage rights, and the issue of safety as you have described - I wonder if women today have forgotten the sacrifices the women of yesterday endured for the nearly 100 years to achieve reform. Take a minute sometime and read the speech of Sojourney Truth, a negro slave, given at a convention in Akron, Ohio, that became a turning point during the suffragist campaign. I am in complete agreement with present day's efforts to improve the status of women today, but it helps to go back in your thinking and look at how it all began.

www.charlesclarknovels.com

Zoe

Let me assure you that my peers are very aware of the movement from its "conception." Most of the women set on fire in the Second Wave are teachers of women's history. The women of the Third Wave know more that you or I can imagine.

You would do better to ask than tell - ask a women if she knows before you presume that she does not - then a great conversation can occur. We all need to practice the art of inquiry. Don't you agree?

charlesclarknovels

All of your peers are not aware. Try it yourself: ask them to name just one women's rightist from history. Some will remember the name, Susan Anthony. Most are lost after that. I have asked, I have researched; I am disappointed at the response I get. Ask me, or any physician, to name the pioneers in medicine for the last two centuries - those individuals responsible for the foundation of modern medicine. Does it not correlate: to remember the names of those to whom we owe so much?

www.charlesclarknovels.com

Zoe

Dr Elizabeth Blackwell will be so happy.

Melissa

Dear Mr. Clark,

I find your comments on this post to be very insulting to its author and to women in general. If the women you have interviewed demonstrate a lack of knowledge of women's history, I would argue that this is because the lives and contributions of women to this society have been systematically undervalued. Surely you would agree, Sir, that the presence or absence of a collective knowledge of women's history has more to do with the continued oppression of women in our society than it does with a woman's desire to understand the rich heritage that is our struggle toward equality.

I find it ironic that a beneficiary of patriarchy would come to a women's blog to criticize women for not knowing more about their own history when it is a consequence of the patriarchy that women are not afforded the same rights, privileges, or historical significance as men. I would be curious to know if you have reflected on how the language you use and the attitudes you convey reinforce gender inequalities.

Oh, and by the way, the suffragist movement you reference above was alive and well long before the time period you mention.

charlesclarknovels

Dear Melissa and Zoe,
I am reminded of Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act 3: "The lady protests too much."

Interested in a timeline, Melissa: Convention in Seneca Falls, I think about 1848. Amendment passed: 1920

I still suggest reading Sojourney Truth's speech.

Zoe

Sojouner Truth
Spelling it correctly is a good start.

You can be sure that women were seeking liberation long before the 1848 Conference. Mostly likely right after god blamed it all on Eve.

You all should find it interesting that women bloggers and vloggers are harassed all the time and, so it appears, the intenet is just a mirror of the world. ho hum.


charlesclarknovels

I'm logging out. I want you to know that I enjoyed reading your blog and have added your site to my favorites. I respect all of your efforts to achieve equality. Keep it going!

I arrived here because of my interest in human rights, healthcare, and immigration issues. It's been an interesting trip.

Good luck and God bless.

Charles Clark

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